Comments on: Suicide Affects So Many http://blogs.philadelphiaweekly.com/trouble/2009/06/04/suicide-affects-so-many/ A blog about mental health Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:55:48 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: herb http://blogs.philadelphiaweekly.com/trouble/2009/06/04/suicide-affects-so-many/comment-page-1/#comment-5008 herb Sat, 06 Jun 2009 23:07:53 +0000 http://trouble.pwblogs.com/?p=3177#comment-5008 “I don’t believe that the person who is thinking about committing suicide thinks about who will find them or how it affects their families. If they thought more about it I don’t think allot of them would do it.” --- Brenda Brenda, I am of the same mind as you based upon my own personal experiences as a support person and caregiver. When I’ve questioned my spouse after each of her 9 suicide attempts her mindset was to end the torture, pain and the agony as she just couldn’t go on. Although several times she also expressed the feeling we’d all be better off with out her. Changing the perspective for a moment she had no thoughts of the affect upon me as the visions of her in bed turning blue and the other attributes I need not discuss have certainly left an indelible mark upon my psyche. It is not a pretty picture or to have the feeling of helplessness and then to visit the ICU for almost a week not knowing whether my love would survive or exist as a vegetable. It is hard to accept that I couldn’t prevent these actions but the fact remains that any individual intent upon offing themselves cannot be prevented from doing so. Hopefully the thought of the loved ones left behind and their emotional trauma for some will act as a deterrent not to take or consider this final option. On a lighter note and by implication of some additional news information and alternative thoughts expressed here, Dawdy and his “Mini Me’s” might be upset and dismayed that they can’t attribute this one to psychotropic medications. Warmly, Herb VNSdepression.com “I don’t believe that the person who is thinking about committing suicide thinks about who will find them or how it affects their families. If they thought more about it I don’t think allot of them would do it.” — Brenda

Brenda, I am of the same mind as you based upon my own personal experiences as a support person and caregiver.

When I’ve questioned my spouse after each of her 9 suicide attempts her mindset was to end the torture, pain and the agony as she just couldn’t go on. Although several times she also expressed the feeling we’d all be better off with out her.

Changing the perspective for a moment she had no thoughts of the affect upon me as the visions of her in bed turning blue and the other attributes I need not discuss have certainly left an indelible mark upon my psyche. It is not a pretty picture or to have the feeling of helplessness and then to visit the ICU for almost a week not knowing whether my love would survive or exist as a vegetable. It is hard to accept that I couldn’t prevent these actions but the fact remains that any individual intent upon offing themselves cannot be prevented from doing so.

Hopefully the thought of the loved ones left behind and their emotional trauma for some will act as a deterrent not to take or consider this final option.

On a lighter note and by implication of some additional news information and alternative thoughts expressed here, Dawdy and his “Mini Me’s” might be upset and dismayed that they can’t attribute this one to psychotropic medications.

Warmly,
Herb
VNSdepression.com

]]> By: markps2 http://blogs.philadelphiaweekly.com/trouble/2009/06/04/suicide-affects-so-many/comment-page-1/#comment-5002 markps2 Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:29:17 +0000 http://trouble.pwblogs.com/?p=3177#comment-5002 Police revealed Friday that he was discovered with rope tied around his neck and his genitals. http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2009/06/06/carradine-family-fbi.html Police revealed Friday that he was discovered with rope tied around his neck and his genitals.
http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2009/06/06/carradine-family-fbi.html

]]> By: Brenda http://blogs.philadelphiaweekly.com/trouble/2009/06/04/suicide-affects-so-many/comment-page-1/#comment-5003 Brenda Sat, 06 Jun 2009 16:23:16 +0000 http://trouble.pwblogs.com/?p=3177#comment-5003 At the depressed times I don't believe that the person who is thinking about committing suicide thinks about who will find them or how it affects their families. If they thought more about it I don't think allot of them would do it. At the depressed times I don’t believe that the person who is thinking about committing suicide thinks about who will find them or how it affects their families. If they thought more about it I don’t think allot of them would do it.

]]> By: Mitch http://blogs.philadelphiaweekly.com/trouble/2009/06/04/suicide-affects-so-many/comment-page-1/#comment-5006 Mitch Fri, 05 Jun 2009 20:15:56 +0000 http://trouble.pwblogs.com/?p=3177#comment-5006 Articles I've read have said the cord was around his neck AND other parts of his body. To me that seems more like an auto-erotic asphyxiation related death. Still difficult for someone to find, but sets an entirely different tone to his tragic death. Articles I’ve read have said the cord was around his neck AND other parts of his body. To me that seems more like an auto-erotic asphyxiation related death. Still difficult for someone to find, but sets an entirely different tone to his tragic death.

]]> By: markps2 http://blogs.philadelphiaweekly.com/trouble/2009/06/04/suicide-affects-so-many/comment-page-1/#comment-5005 markps2 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:11:57 +0000 http://trouble.pwblogs.com/?p=3177#comment-5005 “I can confirm that we found his body, naked, hanging in the closet,” Teerapop said. From the article. Do you get naked to kill yourself? I don't think so. Something else could have happened. “I can confirm that we found his body, naked, hanging in the closet,” Teerapop said. From the article.

Do you get naked to kill yourself? I don’t think so. Something else could have happened.

]]> By: Ton http://blogs.philadelphiaweekly.com/trouble/2009/06/04/suicide-affects-so-many/comment-page-1/#comment-5004 Ton Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:09:10 +0000 http://trouble.pwblogs.com/?p=3177#comment-5004 Yes, Liz, It's good to know that suicide deeply affetcs at least 3 to 5 people who practically never get well. Another sad fact is people from a dead person family are much more vulnerable to commit suicide themselves - I presume it's percieved as a possible solution. And Carradine was great, he was fantastic in Kill Bill. Shit. Not a way to go. Yes, Liz, It’s good to know that suicide deeply affetcs at least 3 to 5 people who practically never get well. Another sad fact is people from a dead person family are much more vulnerable to commit suicide themselves – I presume it’s percieved as a possible solution.
And Carradine was great, he was fantastic in Kill Bill. Shit. Not a way to go.

]]> By: anonymous http://blogs.philadelphiaweekly.com/trouble/2009/06/04/suicide-affects-so-many/comment-page-1/#comment-5001 anonymous Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:20:07 +0000 http://trouble.pwblogs.com/?p=3177#comment-5001 The "who would find me" question is why I never got as far as making a plan. I couldn't come up with anything where there wouldn't have been a chance of one of my siblings finding me, and i couldn't inflict that on a stranger, much less them. The “who would find me” question is why I never got as far as making a plan. I couldn’t come up with anything where there wouldn’t have been a chance of one of my siblings finding me, and i couldn’t inflict that on a stranger, much less them.

]]> By: erin http://blogs.philadelphiaweekly.com/trouble/2009/06/04/suicide-affects-so-many/comment-page-1/#comment-5007 erin Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:50:49 +0000 http://trouble.pwblogs.com/?p=3177#comment-5007 i'm more haunted by the fact that they felt the need to write 10 a.m. Thursday MORNING...redundant much? i’m more haunted by the fact that they felt the need to write 10 a.m. Thursday MORNING…redundant much?

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